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Poll: Should Government Put a Tighter Leash on Pit Bull Ownership?

Fatal attack on 8-month-old boy is latest incident pointing to potential threat of the breed.

A male pit bull that June 14 in Lemon Grove has been euthanized—but the contentious issue of the breed’s danger lives on.  Owners are fiercely defensive of their pit bulls. Opponents say they represent a greater threat than other canines. Is a special license needed? An outright ban? How do you fall on the pit bull spectrum?

James Jones June 22, 2012 at 10:22 pm
Brilliant comparison Larry. Let's assume they all are equally likely to bite. Would you rather have a child of yours bitten by a chihuahua, a pit bull or a presa canario? I guess it's all the same, right?
Bing wong June 23, 2012 at 01:36 am
Say what you want (Doug and James) the real static we should be talking about is how many people were bitten by dogs with iresponsible owners? All I'm saying is if your an iresponsible owner no matter the breed than your is more likely to bite someone. And a bloodsport dog really is there place where pitbulls go to secretly sign their self up and if so will my dogs ever start paying any bills here.
Pat P June 23, 2012 at 01:49 am
GPs are guard dogs, they guard the property and home. I own a SharPei, also a guard dog. Best dog I've ever had, and I've had him since he was 1 and he is 14 now. Right now, it's the fad in the media to say Pit Bulls are the devil incarnate, before that, it was Rottweilwers, before that it was Dobermans, then German Shepherds. It's how you raise the dogs. There are too many thugs that abuse these dogs and that causes them to be mean. That being said, I don't know how long that lady had those 3 dogs, and she shouldn't have left an 8 month old alone so that 1 of them could bite him. You have to use common sense, too.
Ashley M. June 23, 2012 at 01:50 am
Have you ever been around this breed? And I am saying had interaction with the breed?
Ashley M. June 23, 2012 at 02:10 am
I have my beliefs and you have yours and I respect that. I know what my dog is might be a American Pit Bull Terrier but when it is all said and done she is just a canine and is no different then any other canine. Also I know what kind of dog she is, a very good loyal dog that loves children, swimming, and playing frisbee. She would not hurt a human or other animal. The only difference in her and another dog her size is looks. I am sorry she don't fit the stereotype. I think the human race went though a similar fate back in the day. Also I encourage you to read the book " The Lost Dog". About the Vick Dogs because they were trained to fight, but most would not fight and for that they were murdered in some of the most horrific ways. Just because they would not fight!
Tom Yarnall June 23, 2012 at 11:57 am
I think these discussions have "gone to the dogs".
Jaloney Caldwell June 23, 2012 at 11:20 pm
. Alexandra Semyonova, a world reknown animal researcher and author of the book, The 100 Silliest Things People say About Dogs, says pitbulls have a disconnect between the thinking and impulse control centers in the brain and a different chemical make up in the brain. Just as you can't see a gene that suddenly turns on cancer, you can't see the gene that is suddenly activated in a pitbull making them violent. I personally know of several people who had a pitbull turn on them after years of normal behavior. Personal accounts of owners who had "nice" pitbulls doesn't mean that pitbulls are not dangerous. This again is illogical. The statistics on pitbulls seriously harming people at a much higher rate than other dogs are overwhelming. You can't love out genes or untrain genes. Family owned and loved pitbulls can turn on a dime. If you believe that ptbulls are just like any other dog, and regurgitate the false "its the owner not the breed mantra" you would of believed the world was flat, too Just because something sounds good doesn't make it true. http://walkforvictimsofpitbulls.blogspot.com/
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pitbulldangers
Jay Berman June 27, 2012 at 07:54 pm
In today's news ... yet another kid gets attacked by a violent pit bull http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/jun/27/oceanside-girl-mauled-by-pit-bull/
You have to be INSANE to have one of these with children ... "Oh, but not MY pooch, he would NEVER do that !" BULL ...
Tom Yarnall June 27, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Jay, don't you know it's the owners fault when these dogs attack? They are perfect most of the time and only attack on rare occasion when children and old people are around. It's OK as long as they don't kill too many.
Tom Yarnall June 27, 2012 at 10:39 pm
BTW, They do not prefer just family children. They don't discriminate, a child is a child when they trigger goes off.
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:38 pm
People and pitbulls don't mix peroid. Politicians that give in to the calls and letters from pitbull groupies should be voted out of office.
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Despite be given all the love and care that other dogs enjoy, these pitbulls suddenly turn suddenly and the owners are always shocked by the sudden change in behavior. Alexandra Semyonova, a world reknown animal researcher and author of the book, The 100 Silliest Things People say About Dogs, says pitbulls have a disconnect between the thinking and impulse control centers in the brain and a different chemical make up in the brain. Just as you can't see a gene that suddenly turns on cancer, you can't see the gene that is suddenly activated in a pitbull making them violent. I personally know of several people who had a pitbull turn on them after years of normal behavior. Personal accounts of owners who had "nice" pitbulls doesn't mean that pitbulls are not dangerous. This again is illogical. The statistics on pitbulls seriously harming people at a much higher rate than other dogs are overwhelming. You can't love out genes or untrain genes. Family owned and loved pitbulls can turn on a dime. If you believe that ptbulls are just like any other dog, and regurgitate the false "its the owner not the breed mantra" you would of believed the world was flat, too Just because something sounds good doesn't make it true. http://walkforvictimsofpitbulls.blogspot.com/
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pitbulldangers
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Awareness doesn't pay for the medical bills left to pitbull victims who often are left to beg on the internet as the low income dog owner has nothing to sue. Since when is irresponsiblity endorsed. Tax payers often end up paying the medical bills of pitbull victims that can run over a million dollars. Pitbulls are the problem. http://walkforvictimsofpitbulls.blogspot.com/
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pitbulldangers
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:46 pm
Yeah tell us that when you or a family member are facing massive medical bills and permanent damage from a pitbull attack and you can't recover any damages from the low income pitbull owner and they get only a 50 dollar fine at most for taking your legs. Wake up. http://walkforvictimsofpitbulls.blogspot.com/
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pitbulldangers
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:47 pm
http://walkforvictimsofpitbulls.blogspot.com/
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pitbulldangers
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:50 pm
Another lame excuse that doesn't hold water. Animal control officers work with pits all the time and know a pit when they see one. But even if some freak determination was made that the breed was misidentified and 2/3's of the pitbull maulings were thrown out pitbull would still be the top killers, they are that far ahead of all other dogs in aggression on humans.
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:52 pm
The American Temperment Test was designed to rate fighting dogs orginally and is know conducted by pitbull advocates for pitbull advocates. It is not a test that was developed to rate all dogs.
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:53 pm
Yup any dog can bite but only pitbulls maul. Normal dogs let go after biting and releasing. and they rarely even break the skin.
Jaloney Caldwell June 27, 2012 at 11:56 pm
Wrong. Owning a dog is not a right. The government has already banned pitbulls in all branches of the military.
Jaloney Caldwell June 28, 2012 at 12:01 am
Mortality, Maiming and Mauling by Vicious Dogs normalized data for dog injuries that brought people into hospitals and caculated a risk of death scale. :the risk of death was a One for Lab, Only a Five for a German Shepard, 70 for a Roteweiller, and more than 2500 for a Pitbull. So German Shepards and even Rotweillers are no where near as dangerous as pitbulls.
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Nebraska Jones August 29, 2012 at 03:01 am
If it gets out, it's your fault. If it kills anything it is your fault. If I'm delivering a pizza and it bites me it is your fault. If it causes any damage to anyone or anything it is your fault. One incident is one to many. I've seen them loose and they scare the crap out of me. They're unpredictable. Thats when I go inside and get my bat.
Jaloney Caldwell August 29, 2012 at 05:42 pm
The it's the owner not the breed mantra sounds logical but it's not. This repetitive slogan is illogical. Other dog breeds owned in much greater numbers have equal chances of getting neglectful and abusive owners, yet they adapt to human shortcomings and don't maul people or pets at anywhere near the rate that pitbulls do. Just as you can't see a gene that suddenly turns on cancer, you can't see the gene that is suddenly activated in a pitbull making them violent. I personally know of several people who had a pitbull turn on them after years of normal behavior. Personal accounts of owners who had "nice" pitbulls doesn't mean that pitbulls are not dangerous. This again is illogical. The statistics on pitbulls seriously harming people at a much higher rate than other dogs are overwhelming. You can't love out genes or untrain genes. Family owned and loved pitbulls can turn on a dime.
Support the first ever walk to honor VICTIMS of pitbull attacks and other dangerous dogs. http://walkforvictimsofpitbulls.blogspot.com/ http://www.blogtalkradio.com/pitbulldangers http://pitbullvictims.org/memorial.php
Sophia Rayner September 13, 2012 at 10:51 pm
I have read all the comments. I live near Poway High School and there is this blond lady who regularly walks two pit bulls. As is my routine to get my mail in the evening, I paused and asked her if I was okay to get my mail. Her reply was that they don't attack and that I should educate myself regarding the breed. What?! I am very educated about the breed. One of the best dog trainers in San Diego told me that 3 out of 4 pit bulls should be put down for safety reasons in her experience. She is a dog lover too! Lemon Grove is full of the breed and there are regular attacks there! This same Poway lady's pit pulls (near the high school) have been loose in the neighborhood a few times and I shudder to think of the children who might of been innocently walking the streets when these pit bulls were wandering. What can we do when people's dangerous dogs are on the loose? The pound can not ususally respond quick enough. These dogs should be banned! There should be some jailing time for those people who have pit bulls that attack children and innocent by standers.
Sophia Rayner September 13, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Having lived in Lemon Grove I can positively say that I see several pit pulls on any given day just about every 3rd or 4th block that I drive. These are a favorite breed in Lemon Grove. I took my dog to the vet behind Home Depot in Lemon Grove and my dog was almost viciously attacked in the waiting room in the office totally unprovoked. The owner was sitting calmly on the chair when this incident happened. It took all his strength to restrain his dog. I would never walk the streets in Lemon Grove due to several attacks that have occurred - most go unreported. We hear about the deaths and near deaths. These past two years I know several people that were attacked in broad daylight out of no where. Somebody's pit pull had escaped their yard. People should be jailed and heavily fined when their pit pull attacks innocent children or people unprovoked. Pit bulls are not attacking burglars here. One of the best dog trainers in San Diego told me in her experience that 3 out of 4 pit bulls are not safe and require special handling which most owners would not be trained in. These dogs have a reputation for a reason and should be BANNED. I would hope this subject of pit pulls being docile nice breeds would stop being treated with denial, ignorance, and carelessness. How many more people need to be injured, killed or maimed for life?
Jamie Groover September 18, 2012 at 03:34 pm
The only dogs I have ever owned were pitbulls. I had about 5 of them and I never had one problem with any of them. I never trained them to be tough. I never purchased toys that they could shake like they were attacking. I never abused and beat any of them. But I also realized any dog with teeth is capable of attacking someone so always kept my dog on a leash and Always super Careful around people. I have al ays promised myself if any of my pits ever as much snapped at anyone I would turn them in. But so far they have been great dogs. My do sister is scared of any dog after she was bit by a German sheaphard
Jamie Groover September 18, 2012 at 03:40 pm
I was shopping for some toys for my pits and there were alot of chew toys that are like small images of kids and I think when dogs have chew toys that have human child characteristics they might mistaken a child for a rag toy. So I stay away from buying my dog certain chew toys.
Eric Heininger April 3, 2013 at 04:27 pm
FYI, I have a large 120lb German Shepherd that was attacked by a pitbull this morning completely unprovoked. Typical death bite clamp to the neck. Luckily my dog is a long haired shepherd...He had mostly fur. I still had to physically wrestle the pair to the ground and beat the &$% out of the Pit untill he let go. Heavy punches to the rib cage had the desired affect on the Pit. The attack took a whole 30 seconds.. BEWARE! This breed is extremely dangerous.
Kevin George April 3, 2013 at 04:32 pm
Eric, where did this happen?
I was knocked flat by a pit bull last night while trying to keep it away from my dog.
Tom Yarnall April 3, 2013 at 04:36 pm
Too bad you didn't have a lead pipe.

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