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Councilman Jones Calls on Community, County to Offset League Debts

Jerry Jones: "... stop waiting for the other guy. Get out your checkbook and send a check. Any amount will help ..."

Everyone in Lemon Grove is proud of our boys and their performance in Maine. They represented us there, as well as all of San Diego and the “West” as their uniforms reflected. The community and city organized a well-deserved hero’s welcome with a parade when they got home.  

The problem for our City Council is we were asked to pay for the transportation of the parents to the games. The league explained to us that they spent the money meant for expenses on airline tickets and hotels for the parents. Had that been for direct support to the kids, that would be different.  

As it stands, the request presented to us is very close to the legal definition of “a gift of public funds.” That is illegal and not what tax dollars are meant for.

Yes, this was a once-in-a-lifetime deal for these boys. There are kids all over our town that have their own once-in-a-lifetime things come up, but we just can’t buy airline tickets for the parents of every Olympic hopeful, music virtuoso, championship drill team and the like. My own kids had their once-in-a-lifetime trip to Europe when they were kids. We sent the kids and we stayed at home.

Does the community have a responsibility to help? Absolutely, and that responsibility is not limited to Lemon Grove and should include the entire county.

So stop waiting for the other guy. Get out your checkbook and send a check to Lemon Grove Little League Seniors, P.O. 755, Lemon Grove, CA 91945. Any amount will help, and I know there are enough current and former Little Leaguers out there to take care of this. This is the proper way for this to be funded and not with tax dollars.

Jerry Jones, Lemon Grove City Councilman

James Davis October 17, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Thanks for the explanation Mr Jones and I agree 110%. I think the energy and passion just needs to be redirected through more appropriate channels such as Patch. But you are also doing a service by helping LGLL find a solution rather than just saying 'no' without explanation. We are all neighbors here and what those kids did was incredible. If you can, please donate whatever you can.
J Jones October 18, 2012 at 03:08 AM
This was written as a comment to the article about the Little League Seniors champions request for funding to the Lemon Grove City Council. As I read this as a stand-alone I realize it reads a little disconnected without first reading the original article first. Had I known it was going to be a stand-alone I would have added more information. My apologies. http://lemongrove.patch.com/articles/city-council-hears-request-for-funds-from-lemon-grove-little-league jj
David Brammer II October 18, 2012 at 04:58 PM
They'd rather waste time and money by having engineers like Gary stand around watching workers fix up a memorial that nobody cares about on Blossom Lane. They would rather spend the money on one guy driving a truck while one guy sprays weeds from the back. And omg we can't give kids a gift of public funds even though they gave us the gift of free city advertisment and recognition. Maybe the kids can work for the gift... give them the funds and they keep-up the memorial???
David Brammer II October 18, 2012 at 04:59 PM
JJ wont be voting for him again
carol flatmo October 18, 2012 at 05:28 PM
The coucil is held by the law in what they can and cannot do. Your lack of knowledge of the issue and blaming it all on one council person who had the courage to give the respomse is misplaced. You have issues with the city not one person.
Lemongrovelocal October 19, 2012 at 01:52 AM
The City's job isn't to fund the little league. The City's job is to provide essential services to the community such as emergency services, maintenance of the sewer and drainage systems, maintenance of the parks, streets, and lighting. The Little League held many fundraisers and when the kids came home the fundraisers stopped...but they shouldn't have! As a parent of a kid who has played in the Lemon Grove Little League for 3 years, I spend A LOT of money funding the little league. The least the little league board could have done was supplied the council with a financial statement and the reason they needed $4,000. Oh and if you research staff on the City’s website, you would know Gary isn’t an Engineer, he is an Engineering Inspector which might be why he was at Veterans Park…which means a lot to me and my family since my husband is a veteran! What is your contribution to this country, cimmunity and Little League besides complaning?
David Brammer II October 19, 2012 at 05:31 PM
if it means so much why did it look like crap for 10yrs? You couldn't find a rake to go take care of something you LOVE and something the CITY should keep up? Have (bump) you (bump) seen (bump) our (bump) streets (bump bump)or driven (bump)on them(bump)? I'm guessing not. PAVE OUR STREETS, NOT FILL HOLES AND PAINT THEM!!! What's Park and Rec to this city=) lol 11 straight years of 1st on Atlas Untited Black Panthers.... just another kids sports team to give this city more recognition than it can get on it's own=P I know Gary(I like him too, he helped us out with a problem), but who cares what his title is? And if you think 4 guys watching one guy dig is such a great service and use of funds then you belong in a government job!!! OMG the fundraisers stopped=O Could it be because they have SCHOOL and they are kids and can't devote 24/7 to fundraising. I guess next year they should just suck and nobody will have to worry about them. If you don't care about our future(kids) then I could careless about your past(husband) but I'll thank him for my freedom to tell you that. Financial statement? Okay Capt Obvious! Do YOU really need a statement to understan their problem. Gawd I hope you're smarter than that. Plus I'm sure when you had kids playing, half the parents were not poor or flat ass broke like they are during these hard times.
David Brammer II October 19, 2012 at 05:36 PM
Hmmm what else.... oh, I pick up bottles and cans when walking my dogs. I throw broken glass out of harms way. You know, all the stuff you claim the city does lmao! Oh well, with the new section 8 tower being built you'll have more than enough money flowing into this city via wic and foodstamps lmao. I don't place nails under James' toyota truck tires lol (sorry James, I like you too much to not mention you lol) Army said NO when they found out about my heart murmur. So I've been doing my best to serve this country buy voting republican=)
David Brammer II October 19, 2012 at 05:49 PM
As history has proven time and time again, the death always comes to the messanger=) As it stands, the request presented to us is very close to the legal definition of “a gift of public funds.” I'm very close to Spring Valley. Does that mean I'm in Spring Valley? They can give a whole goddamn street to a ((((church)))) but screw the kids?
David Brammer II October 19, 2012 at 06:03 PM
CITY FAVORS RELIGION OVER IT'S YOUTH that's a headline lol
Lemongrovelocal October 24, 2012 at 04:26 AM
David - Thank you for doing your part as a resident, I too do much of the same things you do because it's MY CITY, MY Community! Why should I call the City to pick up trash on my street when I am capable of doing it, even if it isn't mine? You seem passionate...If you don't like the way the City is run, why not run for council? Back to the story about the the little league - the fact is they obviously mismanaged their funds and it is NOT the City's responsibility to bail them out. This year the uniforms were donated by the Padres; therefore, the league didn't need to pay for them, so where did that money go? What about my $100 registration fee? My mandatory fundraiser buy out of $40? Or the mandatory $250/team sponsorship? You shouldn't be so quick to want to give away tax payer money before researching the back story of who you are giving it to. I wish you peace in life David!
David Brammer II October 31, 2012 at 07:08 PM
Why should you call? Because it's the CITY'S job and your property taxes pay for it... why do we have trucks called street cleaners/sweepers? And I would like to enjoy my walk sometimes. The street I speak of Ildica as it forks off of Blossom. It's getting to the point where dead tumble weeds force you into the street to walk. I had many of conversations with the mayor's assistant, and city manager about this. The city cleaned it once with our money even though it's the property owners responsibility for the upkeep. No council meetings or no explaination of funds or no letters sent out to property owners... the city just came and cleaned it after my complaints. I'm sure OUR money will go to clean it AGAIN so when they open the newly re-done memorial park the addendees will have nice streets to look at. The property owners BILLED and or FINED! I agree I shouldn't be so quick because I didn't know about the issues you brought up. But I also wouldn't be too quick to give MANDITORY money unless you saw a budget because it sounds like you gave away your HARD EARNED money. (sounds like they had the funds to run LL for the year but then this unforeseen world series came about.) btw how bad do you think it's going to get with all the new Low Income housing being brought in? If the city keeps fishing for low income families then LGLL will be gone. We will have low income families trying to fundraise from low income families.
David Brammer II October 31, 2012 at 07:09 PM
I wish you and all the others on here peace as well... but when my emotions take over I tend to let the a$$ out. I can't say sorry for that because it's a real issue for me to see this city suck when it should be awesome. Also, when I say 'city' 95% of the time I mean "people running it"

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