Weber, England Face Off Over Lemon Grove Sales-Tax Debate of 2010

Assembly candidates revisit England's decision to keep half-penny sales tax hike off ballot.

Assembly candidates Mary England and Shirley Weber last week revisited the Lemon Grove City Council’s August 2010 decision against placing a half-penny sales tax hike before city voters.

England’s lone dissenting vote on the City Council kept the measure from being placed on the ballot, as U-T San Diego reported.

In an East County Magazine report posted Oct. 12, Democrat Weber was quoted as saying: “People have the right to assess themselves. When I was on the [San Diego] school board, we put two bond measures on the ballot and designed and promoted them so people could see what they were going to get. We even convinced the whole city of San Diego to pay for new schools south of I-8 on the ground that their educational success would affect the lives of all San Diegans.”

Republican England, the La Mesa Chamber of Commerce executive seeking the 79th Assembly District seat, told the website the reason she didn’t join three other council members in putting the sales tax increase on the ballot was that “the number of signatures needed did not happen. The business community, including our large car dealerships, was totally against it. They came out in force during our City Council meeting.”

She argued that major Lemon Grove employer DCH Honda—where she later would announce her Assembly candidacy—and other car dealerships said a tax increase would kill them.

“That is democratic,” England was quoted as saying. “That is what we get elected to do. We’re elected to make informed decisions based on what people want. Lemon Grove’s eggs are in one basket: our largest income source is car dealerships. I always believe taxes should be raised as a last resort, not the first resort.”

East County Magazine noted that England had earlier supported a bond measure to modernize schools in her area, saying: “In November 1998, she shepherded the campaign that got 81 percent of Lemon Grove School District voters to approve the bond proposal.”

The 2010 proposal would have raised Lemon Grove’s sales tax from from 8.75 percent to 9.25 percent.

Komfort October 18, 2012 at 10:54 PM
You could run a campaign for office on $150.00
Things I Learned October 18, 2012 at 11:05 PM
Not if you want to win. http://lamesa.patch.com/articles/crest-democrat-seeks-congress-seat-i-m-going-to-make-hunter-bleed But you could pay people to gather signatures to raise your taxes.
Kevin George October 18, 2012 at 11:19 PM
"“People have the right to assess themselves". Yes they sure do. Why not just send the money in voluntarily? Figure out what you spent in a year, take .5% of that and send it in. Newsflash: There is no limit to how much you want to send in to allay all your guilt about not paying enough.
LG Joe October 19, 2012 at 05:30 AM
You're not very good at math, Kevin George. Not that I'm surprised. Let's see, if you took 3rd grade math, you'd know that ".5%" is 50%. Yes .5 is 50% percent and .05 is 5%, and the .5% tax would be .005. Nice try, genius.
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 12:46 PM
If you skipped 3rd grade math: .5% = 50% ---->.5<----% = ---->50<----% .5 (1/2) % = 50 (fifty) % ---->1/2<----% = ---->50<----% one half of a percent equals fifty percent And I vote!
Komfort October 19, 2012 at 01:44 PM
If the schools got the money that England denied them, would LG have done any better in 3rd grade?
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Hey LG Joe want to explain the difference between percentages and percentage points? Ima ready for some of that 5th grade cipherin now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_QFSWB43bE
LG Joe October 19, 2012 at 03:22 PM
Things I Learned says "And I vote!" Now I know why our nation is in deep trouble. .5% is 50%, not 1/2% Next time you dine at a restaurant, and say you spend $30.00, if you leave them a .5% tip, that's a $15.00 tip. You all need to learn some math and some manners.
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 03:31 PM
I hope I get your table. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU5LoCLGMdQ
Komfort October 19, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Doug, get your popcorn. This is the thread to watch!
LG Joe October 19, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Things I Learned says "I hope I get your table." Maybe with your math you would. My math 1/2% would be .005 and your tip on a $30,00 meal would be 15 cents. But I'm sure you'd earn every penny of it.
LG Joe October 19, 2012 at 04:00 PM
In a January 20th, 2010 story in the San Diego Union Tribune, it states: "LEMON GROVE — A half-cent sales tax is being considered by the Lemon Grove City Council after a survey showed that almost 70 percent of the city’s residents said they would definitely or probably vote for the measure." So I guess Mary England was representing the 30% of consituents who did not feel the tax would be a good idea. Because her vote was against the 70% who were for the tax. Do we need that same kind of representation at the state level? Someone who ignores the majority of their constituents? http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/20/lemon-grove-council-considers-sales-tax-increase/
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 04:10 PM
Hey remember when the American Community Survey said there are 776,943 same-sex couple households (0.5%) in the United States? http://escholarship.org/uc/item/8h08t0zf That's almost 50%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7pMYHn-1yA&feature=related
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 04:21 PM
9.25 divided by 8.75 = a half-cent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZpkBkDa7gI
Komfort October 19, 2012 at 04:25 PM
Scratch the popcorn, Doug. We are going to need beer for this one.
Kevin George October 19, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Joe, if you wanted to type "ninety five percent" numerically would you type .95% or 95% ? But nit picking aside how much extra will you voluntarily send in this year?
Komfort October 19, 2012 at 04:40 PM
That would be .0000000000095%, Kevin.
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 04:44 PM
Nobody told me gazintas were required. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z-AxgueBRk
LG Joe October 19, 2012 at 04:57 PM
Keven George says "Joe, if you wanted to type "ninety five percent" numerically would you type .95% or 95% ?" Either one is 95 percent Kevin. It's just your original comment about "take .5%" is 50%. Let's see that would mean .9% is 90% and .95 is 95%. I think you're starting to catch on.
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 05:06 PM
Komfort October 19, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Doug, we may need the vodka. Don't bring the .40% stuff.
LG Joe October 19, 2012 at 05:11 PM
That was a typo. .9 is 90% and .95 is 95%. But we have manged to make this blog page fill with content. Maybe some people will start commenting on the topic.
Komfort October 19, 2012 at 05:13 PM
Saying "typo" excludes you from having the decency to apologize.
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 05:23 PM
If we manged to save .5% from making the same mistake it was all worth it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJXU7EVXs2A
Kevin George October 19, 2012 at 05:29 PM
Apology accepted.
Kevin George October 19, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Either one is correct? That doesn't sound like math to me. .95% and 95% are the same? Really? http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_0.5_percent_is_equal_to_one_half_of_1_percent_or_50_per "0.5 percent (0.5%) is one half percent. 0.5 is one half or 50 percent." I won't sully myself with childish insults about your intelligence or education, thank you
Kyla October 19, 2012 at 05:56 PM
Sure defended that typo with zeal. Possibly this is too much, but I assume you understand how to type a percentage into a calculator by taking the percentage (95%) and moving the decimal point two numerals to the left (95% = 0.95). The 0.95 is no longer a percentage when written as a decimal. Now, to make 0.95% into a decimal, we employ the same method, giving us 0.0095. It's my hope that 0.95 and 0.0095 do not look equal to you. To take my explanation further, we can do some math: 95% of $100 = $100x0.95 = $95. And: 0.95% of $100 = $100x0.0095 = $0.95. Understood another way, "percent" can be broken down as follows: "per" meaning for each and "cent" meaning, in this case, one hundred. So, the percentage (95%) would be 95 for each one hundred. But probably it was a typo.
Deena While October 19, 2012 at 06:10 PM
Kyla, you have the patience of a saint.
Things I Learned October 19, 2012 at 06:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N7Ud_ELyXc ;-)
Kevin George October 19, 2012 at 06:33 PM
Lemon Grove math lesson. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfq5kju627c


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